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	<title>Comments on: Tradition, Mission and Innovation (OYM)</title>
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		<title>By: C. Wess Daniels</title>
		<link>http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/08/21/tradition-mission-and-innovation-oym/comment-page-1/#comment-67725</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Wess Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter, I took the photo and you&#039;re welcome to use it. You can get different sizes here -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/prh/1191170886/sizes/l/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter, I took the photo and you&#8217;re welcome to use it. You can get different sizes here &#8212; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/prh/1191170886/sizes/l/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/prh/1191170886/sizes/l/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Blood-Patterson</title>
		<link>http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/08/21/tradition-mission-and-innovation-oym/comment-page-1/#comment-67724</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Blood-Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
I&#039;m working on the Quakercamp at Stillwater gathering in cooperation with Friends Center folks this June and wanted to include a photo of the mtghouse. Do you know who took the photo on your website and whether it can be used?
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I&#8217;m working on the Quakercamp at Stillwater gathering in cooperation with Friends Center folks this June and wanted to include a photo of the mtghouse. Do you know who took the photo on your website and whether it can be used?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: A Year With Gathering In Light 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Year With Gathering In Light 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] far more serious and amazing. This was the year that I, along with a few others, was invited to lead workshops on changing trends within the Friends Church. These experiences were incredible not just because I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Convergent Friendship and Playing With the â€˜Otherâ€™ Kids</title>
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		<dc:creator>Convergent Friendship and Playing With the â€˜Otherâ€™ Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] titled &#8220;Convergent Friendship and Playing With the â€˜Otherâ€™ Kids&#8221; it reflects upon my experience in Ohio as well as some thoughts on Quakers and ecumenicism. If you get a chance jump over and have a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: C. Wess Daniels</title>
		<link>http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/08/21/tradition-mission-and-innovation-oym/comment-page-1/#comment-42837</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Wess Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Martin,<br />
I just remembered that I still needed to respond to your comment.  </p>
<p>Basically, what I said was similar to your â€œA tradition that loses the ability to explain itself becomes an empty form.â€? The idea is taken from MacIntyre&#8217;s discussions on narratives that go through an epistemological crisis.  In other words, all large-scale programs/projects, traditions, and even human lives go through moments when the very way we conceive of the world is  called into question; the very framework from which we investigate reality seems to be unreliable (or is discovered to actually be unreliable).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve argued elsewhere that Quakerism in general is in this stage.  We are losing or have lost our ability to make sense of our tradition in light of our tradition&#8217;s text and the challenges of modernity and postmodernity.  I think the crisis is most apparent within liberal-Liberal Quakers and I would reference Pink Dandelion&#8217;s &#8220;Liturgies of Quakerism&#8221; to make that point.  In this case what it means to be &#8216;Quaker&#8217; is completely up for grabs &#8211; there is no agreed upon epistemological starting point or even common language from which to reconstruct a common identity.  </p>
<p>I think that conservative and evangelical Friends are in the best position, for different reasons, to begin to reconstruct the story.  This is why I also talked about convergent-Friends as an experiment and project, I see our works as self-consciously being aware of our tradition, its crisis, and attempting to rewrite the story using all our tradition&#8217;s resources while addressing the challenges and questions of today&#8217;s world.</p>
<p>So basically, that&#8217;s what I meant.</p>
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