Comments on: 5 Streams of The Emerging Church and Convergent Friends (?) http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/ Current Blog Project: Six Months With a Quaker Preacher Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:08:14 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: A Year With Gathering In Light 2007 http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-65885 A Year With Gathering In Light 2007 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:05:44 +0000 http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/#comment-65885 [...] 5 Streams of The Emerging Church and Convergent Friends (?) [...] [...] 5 Streams of The Emerging Church and Convergent Friends (?) [...]

]]> By: Glen Powell http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-31950 Glen Powell Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:49:03 +0000 http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/#comment-31950 bummer that I didn't notice this back in feb... great discussion. I note my name associated with the relativist thing... here's an idea: idolatry is putting faith in a construct rather than in the Creator of constructs. the construct itself is not evil, in fact it can be helpful, but it is problematic when we put our faith in it. there's not a huge difference between a golden calf and the ark of the covenant... one invites faith in a human construct, the other is a construct that points to the Creator. traditions are constructs. the subject-object framework is a construct. Christology is a construct. Our theology is a construct. we are constructs. evangelicalism is a construct. all potentially helpful. all potentially idolatrous. that's part of the view from my relativist/relational knowledge construct... Glen bummer that I didn’t notice this back in feb… great discussion. I note my name associated with the relativist thing…

here’s an idea: idolatry is putting faith in a construct rather than in the Creator of constructs.

the construct itself is not evil, in fact it can be helpful, but it is problematic when we put our faith in it.

there’s not a huge difference between a golden calf and the ark of the covenant… one invites faith in a human construct, the other is a construct that points to the Creator.

traditions are constructs. the subject-object framework is a construct. Christology is a construct. Our theology is a construct. we are constructs. evangelicalism is a construct.

all potentially helpful. all potentially idolatrous.

that’s part of the view from my relativist/relational knowledge construct…

Glen

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]]> By: Aniketos http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-26518 Aniketos Thu, 17 May 2007 10:08:59 +0000 http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/#comment-26518 Cool... Cool…

]]> By: Al Hirsch (via Jarrod McKenna) http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-19620 Al Hirsch (via Jarrod McKenna) Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:55:12 +0000 http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/02/01/5-streams-of-the-emerging-church-and-convergent-friends/#comment-19620 (currently away in the US travelling here is a short responce from Australian Missional Emerging church Guru Alan Hirsch author of The Forgotten Ways) The short reply (which is never wise) is that we are not distancing ourselves from Emergent, just distinguishing ourselves. As Geoff has said we see ourselves more as a missional movement, while they are more a renewal movement (my perspective.) We certainly are of the same tribe and there is no problems--at least from our angle. Much love A (currently away in the US travelling here is a short responce from Australian Missional Emerging church Guru Alan Hirsch author of The Forgotten Ways)

The short reply (which is never wise) is that we are not distancing ourselves from Emergent, just distinguishing ourselves. As Geoff has said
we see ourselves more as a missional movement, while they are more a renewal movement (my perspective.) We certainly are of the same tribe and there is no problems–at least from our angle.

Much love
A

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